Statistics do not lie. try looking them up some time.

[Ok to simplify for you.

If there was not a problem of people activating old accounts to vote or creating new ones, there would not be so much resistance to measures being put in place to prevent this from occurring.

Actually the voting statistics are were they have always been, the fact that the numbers of new accounts voting is high is well known, if you are unfamiliar with them please feel free to examine them yourself.

I have.

But strange how every time closing this loop hole comes up people from the same group constantly shout it down.

Even without stats your own actions prove that change is needed.

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts or shut the **** up..

As I said before, I have in multiple threads go look them up or better yet as it is supposedly not a problem stop arguing about this loop hole being closed.

For something that does not occur and is no problem, it gets a lot of defense when anyone wants to alter the system to prevent it.

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts or shut the **** up..

How about you dig up the numbers and disprove my claims..Oh you can't

so to quote you "shut the **** up"

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts or shut the **** up..

Yes keep going the more you fight the change the more it looks like it is needed, if your actions don't show guilt, I don't know what does.

Covering up are we lol

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts or shut the **** up..

Prove me wrong or shut the **** up

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts (aka prove yourself right) or shut the **** up..

Prove me wrong or shut the **** up

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts (aka prove yourself right) or shut the **** up..

Or I could just change the premise which is

With people fighting so hard to prevent people discussing the loop hole in voting, it really needs to be removed by making only accounts active for 3 or more continuous months at time of voting are eligible to vote.

As the amount of opposition it receives is obviously an indication that something while legal under the current system but unethical is occurring.

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts (aka prove yourself right) or shut the **** up..

Yes there is look, look at the amount of action taken to prevent this type of behavior occurring and that will pretty much tell you how big the loop hole is.

For example if Goonswarm wanted to seal up the next election, thanks to the tech welfare system your accounts stand at around 1.5 trillion.

So if you where to save from now to the elections you would have sufficient funds to cover all ongoing actions and still pay for 2500 votes enough to elect 2 people to the CSM without your active members even voting.

I am not saying you would do this or any more than a few thousand were done in total but it is a loop hole and it needs to be made harder but of course you disagree. For what reason I wonder, if not to protect this loop hole?

Cite the actual numbers of new voting accounts (aka prove yourself right) or shut the **** up..

The numbers for previous elections are availble if you just search for them, I do not work for CCP customer service, so give reasons for this loophole not to be closed or move along.

But I am sure you will tell me newbies vote as huge percentages and then leave the game.

So as the number of votes has increased across the board this number has remained effectively static, hmm almost like the same set of people are buying the same amount of accounts to vote each time.

CSM 5 8598 21.80%
CSM 6 7200 14.67%
CSM 7 8447 14.29%

As I said that is a lot of newbies casting votes, people also even mentioned they were doing this subsequently the comment from a DEV that they had to wait a day before voting when activating an account with plex, most of the people on those threads however were faceless alts. So yes it does exist it was even posted by people do so, personally it needs to be closed to make this harder to achieve but as I said it wont be.

CSM 1-4 were of little interest to anyone, except maybe goonswarms picking on an old ex-chairman.

So as the number of votes has increased across the board this number has remained effectively static, hmm almost like the same set of people are buying the same amount of accounts to vote each time.
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The problem is creating accounts just to vote and closing them when the plex expires a month later. How to solve it as stated above make accounts have to be active for 3 straight months prior to the election, so it can still be done but is 3 times more expensive.

Could it be that the publicity around the CSM vote gets more new players interested in Eve and the drop-off rates in terms of subscriptions reflect the usual drop-off in players after 1 month?

Strangely they don't release those numbers or really any numbers on anything these days.

And as I said if the loophole is not being used, great close it anyway.

Also you missed something: Veto Corp, Agony Unleashed, Pandemic Legion, Shadow Kingdom, Rooks and Kings or Triumvirate, none of these are Null sec groups? Funny I thought some where as they where all on CSM 5
Care to explain how no one from null was in CSM 5?

Zim, you forgot to switch characters.

Had any thought been given to a constituency type election model? [ Eve map divided into 14 constituencies, boundaries drawn up to ensure equal population via player med clone preference] Not saying this would be easy to implement or preferable over another electoral system, just interested if it was considered.

Has any thought also been given to increasing participation of the electorate in the voting process? I know that participation levels have been steadily increasing, however, is there a case to be made for enforced voting - maybe as part of the logon process?